tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8199619079407388156.post97133620369194314..comments2019-06-22T21:00:05.937-05:00Comments on The Fallen Pastor: Common Traits Of The Fallen Pastor, Part 2: Anxiety And DepressionDimmesdalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01111207027397156020noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8199619079407388156.post-10793411929549443132010-05-21T18:18:18.279-05:002010-05-21T18:18:18.279-05:00David,
You are right. I heard that one again tod...David,<br /><br />You are right. I heard that one again today from a well meaning person.<br /><br />Those comments come from people who don't understand the nature of the beast. Depression and/or anxiety can be terrible things.<br /><br />It's not a lack of faith. And when a pastor is accused of such a thing it can be heart wrenching.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment,<br />ArthurDimmesdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01111207027397156020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8199619079407388156.post-37912884996543648292010-05-21T15:05:59.007-05:002010-05-21T15:05:59.007-05:00Then there are those in the congregation who add t...Then there are those in the congregation who add to the depression by claiming that IF the pastor (or anyone else for that matter) has enough faith and has a close walk with God, he wouldn't have problems. Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!Davidhttp://surviving2thriving.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8199619079407388156.post-12610579340719924652010-05-19T12:34:26.952-05:002010-05-19T12:34:26.952-05:00Absolutely makes sense. There are a ton of pastor...Absolutely makes sense. There are a ton of pastors out there on anti-depressants. And there are a ton more who need help and aren't getting it.<br /><br />Many pastors don't reach out for mentoring or help. Many pastors are frustrated and painted in a corner. It's a horrible place to be, but most will never admit it.<br /><br />And as you said, many pastors will never admit to being human for fear of letting their churches down.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment,<br />ArthurDimmesdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01111207027397156020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8199619079407388156.post-78584453824370233592010-05-19T11:26:52.445-05:002010-05-19T11:26:52.445-05:00OK this is an interesting article. I think many ch...OK this is an interesting article. I think many church members too can be consumed by church. I care about things. For example about the things you write here: why people care about non sense. It bothers me when Pastors pretend to have it all together.<br /><br />I think this is a lie from the enemy that the congregation wants to see a perfect person. What I can't stand more than anything the fake, pretend face. I think most people who attend church fail in their own private lives in many different ways and they just can't relate to an all perfect pastor. Actually to a pastor who pretends he is all perfect, but is not. <br /><br />All we want honest humans who can admit that they are not perfect either, they try their best. Because you know what we the congregation mostly can see that the pastor is not perfect, we can see his weakness and trust me it really bothers many people when the pastor pretends and covers his own faults. <br /><br />I can be consumed about the fact that the "church" as a organization fails its calling. I can be consumed about how so called "christians"( it's purposely small c- beaus they are not, they just call themselves but they don't live it up to their name) are treating each other. You are not right on this one...many church members can be consumed by unfair things what should never happen in a church. <br /><br />And sorry I go back to my old saying and my post, but I understand and know anxiety and depression is real, but happens because we loose our CLOSE relationship with God. <br /><br />I was depressed and on pills... trust me I know its a real thing, but if I am sincere and honest I have to tell you, I wasn't close to God. Oh by the way...back then... I thought my relationship with God was OK. <br /><br />And this is where it boils down: if you have a close relationship with God, then you can give Him your burden and LEAVE it there, knowing He is in Control and He will make a way and let Him worry. When we don't have that CLOSE relationship with him, then we might pray and give our burdens to Him, in words....but 30 minutes later we take it back from God because we don't trust Him enough. And then we spend countless hours of worrying. That's how the enemy makes God's people be busy thinking and worry about nothing so we don't have the energy and power to DO God's things. <br /><br />Does it makes sense??? <br /><br />P.S. Sorry for being too long.WIP - When Church Consumes Youhttp://www.work-in-progress-online.com/church-leadership-dissapointed/94-when-church-consumes-you.htmlnoreply@blogger.com